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#21
Hi Guys, I am Bruno, owner of Tideman boats in Holland. We have done a few diesel outboards over the last few years on our indestructible HDPE workboats:

Twin Mercury DSI 175pk on a 9m (48 knots), very aggressive acceleration but very bad emissions, usage and lots of maintenance. The spark plugs for ignition get dirty quite quick and need to be replaced every 30 hours..... Only good for military applications when they are being used at WOT constantly.

OXE: We have 2pcs 150's and 5pcs 200's being used in Europe and Africa. These are high tech engines and they need good quality and clean diesel. Exceptional good fuel usage but not yet reliable enough. Can only be used where local support can be given. We have ordered a 300 but that delivery has been delayed now for more than 8 months. Similar weight as the 200 but better engine because they did not change the ECU setting off the BMW powerhead. The lower end with the belt seems to work well, although we saw some oil leaks on the seals.

COX: we ordered a CXO300 6 months ago but have not heard anything back, I hope they get their problems sorted soon. The sales director has left the company and dealers are waiting for info....

Mecachrome/Teos: this French company has been working on a 175hp outboard, but unfortunately the development stopped: http://www.teos-engineering.com/experien...el-engine/

D-Torque 111 distributed bu Yanmar: A good but very expensive package. Only problem they have is the alternator which does not have enough power to charge the batteries...... the 50hp has good fuel economy but lacks power....

Hyundai-Seasall S30-OB: this is their 3.0V6 engine using a V drive and prop shaft in a box which you can mount on the transom. We order one a year ago but they are still testing in Korea. It was presented at METS last year. This heavy package provided additional buoyancy so the nett weight seems to be OK. looking forward to test it!


Anything else? Chinese have some air cooled V-twin engines. rubbish

A nice video to see twin OXE 200 in action on a pilot boat

https://youtu.be/X4UDTZ40hVg

Twin Mercury DSI: https://www.facebook.com/tidemanboats/vi...908757830/
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#21
Hi Guys, I am Bruno, owner of Tideman boats in Holland. We have done a few diesel outboards over the last few years on our indestructible HDPE workboats:

Twin Mercury DSI 175pk on a 9m (48 knots), very aggressive acceleration but very bad emissions, usage and lots of maintenance. The spark plugs for ignition get dirty quite quick and need to be replaced every 30 hours..... Only good for military applications when they are being used at WOT constantly.

OXE: We have 2pcs 150's and 5pcs 200's being used in Europe and Africa. These are high tech engines and they need good quality and clean diesel. Exceptional good fuel usage but not yet reliable enough. Can only be used where local support can be given. We have ordered a 300 but that delivery has been delayed now for more than 8 months. Similar weight as the 200 but better engine because they did not change the ECU setting off the BMW powerhead. The lower end with the belt seems to work well, although we saw some oil leaks on the seals.

COX: we ordered a CXO300 6 months ago but have not heard anything back, I hope they get their problems sorted soon. The sales director has left the company and dealers are waiting for info....

Mecachrome/Teos: this French company has been working on a 175hp outboard, but unfortunately the development stopped: http://www.teos-engineering.com/experien...el-engine/

D-Torque 111 distributed bu Yanmar: A good but very expensive package. Only problem they have is the alternator which does not have enough power to charge the batteries...... the 50hp has good fuel economy but lacks power....

Hyundai-Seasall S30-OB: this is their 3.0V6 engine using a V drive and prop shaft in a box which you can mount on the transom. We order one a year ago but they are still testing in Korea. It was presented at METS last year. This heavy package provided additional buoyancy so the nett weight seems to be OK. looking forward to test it!


Anything else? Chinese have some air cooled V-twin engines. rubbish

A nice video to see twin OXE 200 in action on a pilot boat

https://youtu.be/X4UDTZ40hVg

Twin Mercury DSI: https://www.facebook.com/tidemanboats/vi...908757830/
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#22
Hi everyone, I’m new to this group but just found this forum so forgive with me for jumping into this conversation late. I live in Galveston TX and operate a small commercial shrimp business. @Bruno Tideman, I was able to get a demo on the Cox product at Ft Lauderdale this past year. I was very impressed with the performance and fuel economy, but they still had a several design issues they were trying to get sorted which left me uncomfortable. My question for you Bruno is whether you think Cox or OXE is actually ready for production? I haven’t actually seen an OXE 300 yet, but have seen the OXE 200 several times with their distributor Laborde Products. To be honest, personally I wasn’t too impressed and talking around in other forums the feedback I’ve received has not been great with OXE. Your comments Bruno reflect the same reliability concerns I’ve heard as well. Based on the PR releases from both OXE and Cox last year I was hoping they were closer to production than what I can see from my own investigations. Really frustrating as I put off repowering last year but need to make a decision now and don’t feel great about either of these options. I’m back to leaning towards petrol again.
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Hi everyone, I’m new to this group but just found this forum so forgive with me for jumping into this conversation late. I live in Galveston TX and operate a small commercial shrimp business. @Bruno Tideman, I was able to get a demo on the Cox product at Ft Lauderdale this past year. I was very impressed with the performance and fuel economy, but they still had a several design issues they were trying to get sorted which left me uncomfortable. My question for you Bruno is whether you think Cox or OXE is actually ready for production? I haven’t actually seen an OXE 300 yet, but have seen the OXE 200 several times with their distributor Laborde Products. To be honest, personally I wasn’t too impressed and talking around in other forums the feedback I’ve received has not been great with OXE. Your comments Bruno reflect the same reliability concerns I’ve heard as well. Based on the PR releases from both OXE and Cox last year I was hoping they were closer to production than what I can see from my own investigations. Really frustrating as I put off repowering last year but need to make a decision now and don’t feel great about either of these options. I’m back to leaning towards petrol again.
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#23
(01-18-2021, 11:24 AM)Richard Childress Wrote: Hi everyone, I’m new to this group but just found this forum so forgive with me for jumping into this conversation late. I live in Galveston TX and operate a small commercial shrimp business. @Bruno Tideman, I was able to get a demo on the Cox product at Ft Lauderdale this past year. I was very impressed with the performance and fuel economy, but they still had a several design issues they were trying to get sorted which left me uncomfortable. My question for you Bruno is whether you think Cox or OXE is actually ready for production? I haven’t actually seen an OXE 300 yet, but have seen the OXE 200 several times with their distributor Laborde Products. To be honest, personally I wasn’t too impressed and talking around in other forums the feedback I’ve received has not been great with OXE. Your comments Bruno reflect the same reliability concerns I’ve heard as well. Based on the PR releases from both OXE and Cox last year I was hoping they were closer to production than what I can see from my own investigations. Really frustrating as I put off repowering last year but need to make a decision now and don’t feel great about either of these options. I’m back to leaning towards petrol again.
Hi Richard. I was able to get a demo on a Cox boat at Ft Lauderdale last year, and also with OXE at the Miami show. The Cox product performed well especially acceleration and fuel economy mainly at WOT. At cruise speed the new Mercury's have really good fuel economy but at WOT the Cox is much better. However, Cox was still having issues like high idle speed due to low water pump flow at low rpm, some type of issues with the shifting due to high idle speed, something about the supply fuel pumps mounted in the boat, etc. Based on what's in the press they they certainly don't seem to be hitting the production #'s they were claiming 6 months ago so something must be happening??? 

As for OXE I've been waiting to get a demo on the  BMW 300 Hp but have only managed to get out on a 200 Hp. The 200 hp was OK and had good fuel economy like the Cox but its really heavy and seemed clunky to me. Not overly impressed but didn't witness any issues during my demo.

As a small commercial operator, I was really active last year hitting several forums trying to boost my confidence that either of these products would NOT be too much of a risk to consider. At this point I'm just not comfortable that either product is reliable, and neither has a strong support network established. With all the spring time offers for repowering I'm leaning towards repowering with the Mercury's V8 300 Hp unless something changes my mind within the next 2-3 months. 'll give it another 3 years and see if either of these diesel outboards actually pan out. Also, there's a boat builder from Holland on one of the other threads on this forum that shared some consistent 1st hand experience too.
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(01-18-2021, 11:24 AM)Richard Childress Wrote: Hi everyone, I’m new to this group but just found this forum so forgive with me for jumping into this conversation late. I live in Galveston TX and operate a small commercial shrimp business. @Bruno Tideman, I was able to get a demo on the Cox product at Ft Lauderdale this past year. I was very impressed with the performance and fuel economy, but they still had a several design issues they were trying to get sorted which left me uncomfortable. My question for you Bruno is whether you think Cox or OXE is actually ready for production? I haven’t actually seen an OXE 300 yet, but have seen the OXE 200 several times with their distributor Laborde Products. To be honest, personally I wasn’t too impressed and talking around in other forums the feedback I’ve received has not been great with OXE. Your comments Bruno reflect the same reliability concerns I’ve heard as well. Based on the PR releases from both OXE and Cox last year I was hoping they were closer to production than what I can see from my own investigations. Really frustrating as I put off repowering last year but need to make a decision now and don’t feel great about either of these options. I’m back to leaning towards petrol again.
Hi Richard. I was able to get a demo on a Cox boat at Ft Lauderdale last year, and also with OXE at the Miami show. The Cox product performed well especially acceleration and fuel economy mainly at WOT. At cruise speed the new Mercury's have really good fuel economy but at WOT the Cox is much better. However, Cox was still having issues like high idle speed due to low water pump flow at low rpm, some type of issues with the shifting due to high idle speed, something about the supply fuel pumps mounted in the boat, etc. Based on what's in the press they they certainly don't seem to be hitting the production #'s they were claiming 6 months ago so something must be happening??? 

As for OXE I've been waiting to get a demo on the  BMW 300 Hp but have only managed to get out on a 200 Hp. The 200 hp was OK and had good fuel economy like the Cox but its really heavy and seemed clunky to me. Not overly impressed but didn't witness any issues during my demo.

As a small commercial operator, I was really active last year hitting several forums trying to boost my confidence that either of these products would NOT be too much of a risk to consider. At this point I'm just not comfortable that either product is reliable, and neither has a strong support network established. With all the spring time offers for repowering I'm leaning towards repowering with the Mercury's V8 300 Hp unless something changes my mind within the next 2-3 months. 'll give it another 3 years and see if either of these diesel outboards actually pan out. Also, there's a boat builder from Holland on one of the other threads on this forum that shared some consistent 1st hand experience too.
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#24
OXE Marine AB (publ) appoints Magnus Grönborg as CEO and Myron Mahendra as EVP Business Development , Sales and Marketing. https://news.cision.com/oxe-marine-ab/r/...-,c3282452
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#24
OXE Marine AB (publ) appoints Magnus Grönborg as CEO and Myron Mahendra as EVP Business Development , Sales and Marketing. https://news.cision.com/oxe-marine-ab/r/...-,c3282452
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#25
Successful production start of OXE300 in Poland. https://news.cision.com/oxe-marine-ab/r/...d,c3283179
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#25
Successful production start of OXE300 in Poland. https://news.cision.com/oxe-marine-ab/r/...d,c3283179
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