Caudwell Marine Diesel Outboard

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Caudwell Marine to enter 300-hp diesel outboard market in 2024


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Caudwell Marine to enter 300-hp diesel outboard market in 2024


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I signed up for this forum 2 years ago but haven’t ever seen much conversation taking place in it. Then today I get an alert that there’s another new diesel outboard player entering the market. Has anyone heard of Caudwell Marine? Sounds like it’s really just a hobby project for a rich guy in Britain ? from what I could find.
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I signed up for this forum 2 years ago but haven’t ever seen much conversation taking place in it. Then today I get an alert that there’s another new diesel outboard player entering the market. Has anyone heard of Caudwell Marine? Sounds like it’s really just a hobby project for a rich guy in Britain ? from what I could find.
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What is the weight? In my opinion the other competitors diesel outboards are struggling because 300Hp isn’t enough to offset the lower RPM, and they don’t offer the same quality as the big 3. If someone comes up with a 400 Hp version that weighs 1,000 Lbs or less, and will last 5,000 hrs, now that will change the market enough to get recreational customers to look. Who wants to pay 3 times the cost of a gasoline outboard that already has a proven quality track record and support network to buy a diesel outboard that weighs 2 or 3 times as much as the gas? Then throw in the fact that none of these companies have a proven support network and its too much of a gamble. Interestingly Seven Marine had the insight and ability to successfully change the market to adopt these large displacement outboards. But Seven Marine didn’t have the proven network that allowed Yamaha and Mercury do sell more outboards in 1 month than Seven Marine ever sold in all their years combined.
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What is the weight? In my opinion the other competitors diesel outboards are struggling because 300Hp isn’t enough to offset the lower RPM, and they don’t offer the same quality as the big 3. If someone comes up with a 400 Hp version that weighs 1,000 Lbs or less, and will last 5,000 hrs, now that will change the market enough to get recreational customers to look. Who wants to pay 3 times the cost of a gasoline outboard that already has a proven quality track record and support network to buy a diesel outboard that weighs 2 or 3 times as much as the gas? Then throw in the fact that none of these companies have a proven support network and its too much of a gamble. Interestingly Seven Marine had the insight and ability to successfully change the market to adopt these large displacement outboards. But Seven Marine didn’t have the proven network that allowed Yamaha and Mercury do sell more outboards in 1 month than Seven Marine ever sold in all their years combined.
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(05-13-2023, 12:56 PM)fishfry1968 Wrote: I signed up for this forum 2 years ago but haven’t ever seen much conversation taking place in it. Then today I get an alert that there’s another new diesel outboard player entering the market. Has anyone heard of Caudwell Marine? Sounds like it’s really just a hobby project for a rich guy in Britain ? from what I could find.
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(05-13-2023, 12:56 PM)fishfry1968 Wrote: I signed up for this forum 2 years ago but haven’t ever seen much conversation taking place in it. Then today I get an alert that there’s another new diesel outboard player entering the market. Has anyone heard of Caudwell Marine? Sounds like it’s really just a hobby project for a rich guy in Britain ? from what I could find.
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(05-13-2023, 12:56 PM)fishfry1968 Wrote: I signed up for this forum 2 years ago but haven’t ever seen much conversation taking place in it. Then today I get an alert that there’s another new diesel outboard player entering the market. Has anyone heard of Caudwell Marine? Sounds like it’s really just a hobby project for a rich guy in Britain ? from what I could find.

From what I've heard it is a super-heavy engine, that some rich guy is trying to make work. They are saying they are doing loads of testing to make it a great product. But, people have told me that they are still struggling with basic problems.
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(05-13-2023, 12:56 PM)fishfry1968 Wrote: I signed up for this forum 2 years ago but haven’t ever seen much conversation taking place in it. Then today I get an alert that there’s another new diesel outboard player entering the market. Has anyone heard of Caudwell Marine? Sounds like it’s really just a hobby project for a rich guy in Britain ? from what I could find.

From what I've heard it is a super-heavy engine, that some rich guy is trying to make work. They are saying they are doing loads of testing to make it a great product. But, people have told me that they are still struggling with basic problems.
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(Today, 07:18 AM)boatingbrit Wrote:
(05-13-2023, 12:56 PM)fishfry1968 Wrote: I signed up for this forum 2 years ago but haven’t ever seen much conversation taking place in it. Then today I get an alert that there’s another new diesel outboard player entering the market. Has anyone heard of Caudwell Marine? Sounds like it’s really just a hobby project for a rich guy in Britain ? from what I could find.

From what I've heard it is a super-heavy engine, that some rich guy is trying to make work. They are saying they are doing loads of testing to make it a great product. But, people have told me that they are still struggling with basic problems.
I talked to a person I know from OXE and what they said was inline with your comment. 500+ Kg, and still having many validation issues. They did say they thought Caudwell was using the same inboard VM engine MerCruiser markets at 270 Hp so don’t know if they’re possibly using a bigger turbo or something to squeeze more Hp. However, the MerCruiser 270 Hp is not known to be a reliable commercial rated diesel engine so not sure how they plan to sell this as a highly reliable, “extreme validated” commercial diesel outboard. Wait and see, and then spend your $80K to see if it works? No thanks.
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(Today, 07:18 AM)boatingbrit Wrote:
(05-13-2023, 12:56 PM)fishfry1968 Wrote: I signed up for this forum 2 years ago but haven’t ever seen much conversation taking place in it. Then today I get an alert that there’s another new diesel outboard player entering the market. Has anyone heard of Caudwell Marine? Sounds like it’s really just a hobby project for a rich guy in Britain ? from what I could find.

From what I've heard it is a super-heavy engine, that some rich guy is trying to make work. They are saying they are doing loads of testing to make it a great product. But, people have told me that they are still struggling with basic problems.
I talked to a person I know from OXE and what they said was inline with your comment. 500+ Kg, and still having many validation issues. They did say they thought Caudwell was using the same inboard VM engine MerCruiser markets at 270 Hp so don’t know if they’re possibly using a bigger turbo or something to squeeze more Hp. However, the MerCruiser 270 Hp is not known to be a reliable commercial rated diesel engine so not sure how they plan to sell this as a highly reliable, “extreme validated” commercial diesel outboard. Wait and see, and then spend your $80K to see if it works? No thanks.
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